DATING TIPS MAILBAG: Approaching Women And Starting Conversations
By David DeAngelo
***QUESTION*** Hi, Dave.
I've recently separated after 13 years ofmarriage and was pretty nervous about the datingscene. I was immediately thinking of all the wussystuff you're "supposed" to do on a first date andto attract a woman. By chance, I got on yourmailing list, and you answered the questions I hadat the perfect time. I realized that I need to dothe same thing I've been doing with women for thepast 13 years--tease them and be funny. I was neverinterested in dating my female friends, and Itreated them as buddies, and they always chattedand danced with me at parties and told my wife shewas lucky to have a guy like me. Thanks to you, Iknow that I can keep being my cocky and funny selfand I have a better chance of meeting women than byfawning over them. The preliminary flirting andmeeting I've done so far has been good practice forme--I've gotten a few numbers, but more important,have been learning from my mistakes when I don'tget one, and I'm going to get your ebook to learneven more so the mistakes become less frequent.
I do have a question though. I have been skimmingthe online dating sites, and I find that over 90%of the women's profiles say they're looking for anice guy who will spend romantic evenings with themand be caring and attentive and all the "wussy"stuff you decry. What gives? Does it make adifference that the online women are looking forlong-term relationships and want something morestable, or are they fooling themselves and askingfor something they're really not attracted to butthink they should be?
Thanks again for you help! You saved me from theSahara Desert of Dating.
R.B. Chicago, IL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes!
You've asked one of my favorite questions of alltime...
You're basically asking “Why is it that women allsay that they want a guy who acts like a WUSSY?”.
And more importantly, why is it that womenactually RESPOND to something totally different?
Here it is in a nutshell:
We humans have NO IDEA what we REALLY want.
We THINK that we know what we want, but we don't.
We come into this world pre-programmed with allkinds of bizarre drives and desires... but manyof them are so strange that our cultures andreligions have made these natural drives “wrong”.
Now, when you have a desire for something thatis “wrong”, what are you going to do?
You can't exactly run around saying “I want thething that everyone thinks is wrong”.
Of course not.
You'd be put in a looney bin and forced to takeall kinds of medication.
Either that or you'd be a rock star.
Whatever.
Look... I spent MANY YEARS of my life tryingto get women to like me by kissing up to them,being “nice”, buying them thoughtful gifts,taking them nice places, and generally beinga complete WUSSBAG.
Did it work?
Not so well.
Or course, I just figured that the reason thatit wasn't working so well was because I wasn'tgood-looking or rich enough.
Only after spending a lot of time learning fromguys who were “naturally” good with women did Ibegin to see what was REALLY going on.
The fact is that if you ask most women what theywant in a man, they'll tell you that they wanta “nice guy”. They want someone who is “A goodcommunicator”. They want someone who is kind,thoughtful, and generous.
I have a theory about this.
It's a dangerous idea, though.
I think that most women say that they want anice, ass-kissing, Wussy guy because...
...sit down for this...
THEY CAN'T FIND ANY REAL MEN INTHE WORLD, SO THEY DECIDE THATTHEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SETTLEFOR “NICE”.
So stop paying attention to all this stuffthat women SAY that they want, and start doingthe things I'm teaching you and gettingRESULTS.
Thanks for your email. Good stuff.
***QUESTION***
hey my girl lives in wisconsin i aint see in her awhile shes comin bac tommow and possibly movin inwit her cousin 2 blocks from my house im nervouswhat do i do
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, if I read your email right, I gather:
1) You are not so sharp with words.
2) Your “girl” is also from Wisconsin.
3) She's moving in with her cousin, which tellsme that they're probably getting married.
4) That doesn't surprise me, based on your email.
If I were you, I'd go back to high school...
Until then, use the spell-check feature on youremail or word processor.
Please.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dear David,
David DeAngelo, you are truly a GENIUS! No,seriously, I love your work! I'm writing to youfrom South Africa for two reasons. Firstly, I haveto thank you!
I have always been a jock. I was able to get almostany girl I wanted! There were, however, thoseelusive few, the cream of the crop, that wouldnever fall for my charms. For heaven's sake, nomatter what I tried, I just did not make thebreakthrough! I was sure that I would forever haveto do with less than I really wanted.
For anyone listening out there: NEVER settle forless! Rather read THE BOOK! I've been teasing,joking, telling girls what to do, what I want,prefer and absolutely need, what is wrong with them(Jokingly of course), what they're doing thatirritates me, basically saying and doing just whatI want in a C & F way. Suddenly the elusive few arelike putty in my hands, telling me how DIFFERENT(!!!) I am and how GOOD(???) I treat them! Theyeven tell me that I am "THE SWEETEST GUY EVER"!(This after doing everything possible to bust theirballs!?). IT'S UNBELIEVABLE! They ask ME for MYnumber (When I obviously tell them please not tocall me too much or ask whether they're always thiseager or to please take it a bit slower) and what's more, they call ME, almost every time! Even theirunknown friends call me. I am having the TIME OF MYLIFE, and I'm ENJOYING IT EXTREMELY! My utmostthanks again, David, you changed me from good tomasterful.
Now for the second reason: Everyone that's readingthis letter, BUY THE BOOK! I also have a lot ofexperience in chatting up girls, I have tried a lotof approaches, and David DeAngelo's stuff is so farTHE MOST SUCCESSFUL! I love you, man. Keep it up.
PS. Read the book, "GET IT", use it, becomeamazing!!!
W.A. , Pretoria, South Africa.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Ah yes... it's amazing how these concepts will helpyou take your success with women to the next level,no matter where you're at now.
I get a lot of email from guys who are handsome,successful, etc. who are finally enjoying successwith women... now that they're learning the mostimportant part of the equation.
Thanks for your email.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Hey David D,
I got your Advanced CD series and it opened myeyes to a TOTALLY different way of thinking. It'snot just about pick up lines or techniques, youreally get into the psychology and evolution of whythings happen and why we think the way we do...it'sreally deep, I enjoyed it...I listened to the wholething in 3 days...really and I'm listening to itmore and more. What I like about it is that I canhear you and your voice tone when delivering someof the techniques and answering questions from guyswho have common problems...I love it. I got it offof the free trial offer and no way am I sending itback. It's deeper than anything I've ever heard andtalks about ATTRACTION, which is a subject no oneever talks about when it comes to women yet its themost important part. If she's attracted to you,you're in, if she's not, you're out...simple! Thatspart of my success, feeling better that I finally"get it" and starting to see the light. Somethingyou said made a LOT of sense...either you get it oryou dont. If you get it, you'll see success, if youdont, you wont. With that said, I want to sharesome cocky+funny lines I've come up with on my ownthat work well for me:
"Hey, those are nice shoes. Toobad some homeless kid is running around barefootright now!"
"Those are some pretty earrings. I didnt know thetoy store sold earrings like that!"
"What a cute ring (or watch or whatever)! Did youget that with the kids meal at (fill in your localrestaurant here)?
(I cant believe this one works...) Like if a womansays something that SHOULD be obvious to everyoneelse you say: "Duh!...You're acting more blonde bythe minute". And if the girl really is blonde, youcan say: "Hey, I thought everyone knew that! Youdont have to ACT blonde you know!" This is reallypushing it but it works on most women.
Anyhow, I'll be out with some friends using yourstuff like on the waitresses when we go out. Forinstance, once the waitress asked to put my leftover hot wings in a to-go box. I said "Ok, but youbetter not put any of my bones in there!" She said:"Ok, I'll put your bones in there then". (obviouslyplaying along) She comes back and I check the boxright in front of her and say: "Let's see ifthere's bones in here...hmm" But she knew I wasplaying. So, it comes time for me to pay the billand she hands me my bill but as I reach for it, sheholds onto it and wont give it to me, then shefinally does. She says: "Are you ready to pay?" AndI said: "Be patient! Geez, all you women want is mymoney...where are the normal women at?" My friendnext to me says: "What are you doing? Dont saythat! Thats mean!" (he and people that say thatobviously dont "get it"...he tried to get herattention by being nice ad offering her giftsearlier and it didnt work) I knew it worked becauseon my way out she stopped to say "bye". I didnt gether digits because I wasn't interested but I said tomyself..."Boy, this stuff works!" I was happy toobecause at first I was blind, but now I can see,halleluah and amen!
I felt so good, I just wanted to share that withyou, hopefully help some of our other guys outthere.
Thanks Dave!
GT from TN
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yeahhhh baby.
Now you're starting to understand what's going on.
Here's a quick story for you...
I was in Phoenix this weekend visiting some goodfriends of mine.
We went out to a restaurant together.
There were seven of us total.
We were all sitting in a huge booth, and I wasall the way on the inside. In other words, Iwas as far as I could have been from thewaitress, and I had to yell over everyone elseat the table to talk to her.
She walked up to the table to take our drinkorder. She was wearing this dark outfit...I think her shirt was dark green, and herskirt was black.
With it, she had on a PINK BELT.
So just as she walks up, before anyone had achance to say ANYTHING to her, I yelled out:
“I really like the way your belt ties thewhole outfit together.”
Of course, I said it in a sarcastic tone.
Now, most of the people at the table (allguys) didn't even get it. They just kindof smiled and looked at me with the “Whatwas that?” look.
As the evening went on, I continued to makefun of her whenever I could (keep in mind,I had to yell over everyone to do it, andwhen I was making fun of her, everyone atthe table had to hear it).
By the way, this girl was 20 years old, andpretty cute.
Now, as the evening went on, most of the guysat the table started to get a little bitnervous about what I was doing.
I mean, this girl was actually starting to actlike she was upset a few times at what I saidto her.
I was really pushing the envelope.
Toward the end of the meal, the guy sittingacross from me began to ask me questions aboutwhat I do.
Another friend of mine had told him that Iwrite about women and dating, and he wanted tohear about some of my theories.
This particular gentleman is a very successfulbusinessman. He's been a millionaire for over20 years, as it turns out.
I began by explaining to him that most guys tendto “kiss up” to women, chase them around, anddo things to demonstrate that they're “nice”...but that most men never consider the fact thatwomen feel a powerful emotional and physicalATTRACTION to something totally different.
I told him that the thing that made women feelATTRACTION was often teasing, busting on, andbeing difficult with women...
...and I went on to share some of my othertheories with him.
At one point, I even told him that if you havethe guts to ANTAGONIZE a women in a playfulway, you can sometimes make her feel such apowerful attraction to you that she doesn'teven know what to do.
This guy was looking at me as if I was CRAZY.
He was watching me tease this waitress, andseeing her act upset and offended at the thingsI was saying.
He was totally convinced that what I was doingwas making this girl HATE me.
All the other guys at the table were convincedof the same thing.
Even my friends who KNEW me didn't think thatthis girl liked me.
So what happened?
At the end of the meal, after she brought overthe check, she walked around the end of thebooth so she could talk to me alone...
Then she reached over, pulled my hair...
AND HANDED ME A NOTE WITH HER NUMBER.
No, I didn't ask for it.
No, I wasn't even interested in her.
Of course, all the guys at the table werestunned... ESPECIALLY the older successfulguy sitting across from me that thought Iwas crazy.
It was a good time.
Thought you'd enjoy the story...
***QUESTION***
I have been reading your mailbags for quitesometime now and after reading your book, I'm alittle confused. You always said not to be a wuss,but you mentioned in your ebook about opening doorsand pulling out chairs and doing other nice thingswhen you go for coffee or something. Isn't thatbeing a wuss? Please break it down for me.
J Chicago, IL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Great question.
Let me explain.
There is a concept known as “Chivalry”.
Now, there is much debate about what chivalryactually MEANS...
But most people describe chivalry loosely as“Being a perfect gentleman, demonstrating perfectmanners, and acting courteous towards women”.
Incidentally, the word was originally a Frenchword that meant “horseman”, and it has a lot ofassociations with knighthood.
The image of a dark, handsome knight coming torescue a princess who is in distress will giveyou an idea of how it all fits together.
Now, the PROBLEM comes when men begin toCONFUSE “chivalry” with “ass kissing”.
You've probably heard me say that most womenknow EXACTLY what “sexual tension” is, andmost men have no idea.
Same thing is true when it comes to chivalry.
Most women know EXACTLY what it is, and mostmen are so confused that they would actuallybe better off if they knew NOTHING AT ALL.
If you could build a miracle device thatcould magically go inside the minds of athousand women and create a picture of whatthey all thought “chivalry” was, here's whatI think you'd find...
An image of a strong, masculine, adventurousman... one who needs nothing... one who isvery driven towards his own personal goals inlife... one who RADIATES sexual confidence...
...and then you'd see him doing certain thingslike opening a door for a lady, pulling outher chair, walking on the outside of the curbto protect her, etc.
What you WOULD NOT EVER see is a weak, ass-kissing, apologetic, unmotivated, approval-seeking man who is opening doors and pullingout chairs to IMPRESS a woman.
Chivalry is ALL ABOUT the MAN doing thechivalrous things, not about the things he'sdoing.
In these newsletters you see a lot of lettersfrom guys who write in to say “I don't likethe idea of teasing women, being Cocky & Funny,and all the other things you say. I'm a NICEguy. What happened to being a GOOD GUY? Whathappened to BEING YOURSELF and having a womanlike you for who you are?”.
I'll tell you what happened to it.
IT NEVER EXISTED.
It's a fantasy, just like the Easter Bunny,dude.
Here's a riddle for you.
Why is it that when you always put your ownneeds aside, put a woman on a pedestal, anddo whatever she wants, a woman is annoyed?
And why is it that when you put your ownneeds first, play “hard to get”, and givewomen a major CHALLENGE she says thingslike “You're so nice”?
Answer:
WHO CARES!
The fact is that this is the reality we alllive in. And it's time to get with theprogram, and do what works, rather thansitting around telling yourself that you'reright and everyone else is wrong.
This was a great email... it probably deservesa newsletter dedicated to this topic alone.
I'll see what the feedback is on this particularcomment, and maybe we'll do it sometime.
***COMMENT***
Your stories just seem 'too' tuned (made-up) totell 'men' what they want to hear. As you said'men' are too nice therefore naive! I have my owntechniques and one things for sure - BEING TOO NICEIS NOT THE WAY! (Only on ugly or desperate women,right?) Yes!
At least give a few examples instead of tellingguys what they wanna hear then I MAY considerbuying a DVD.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Bite me.
I don't tell guys “what they want to hear”.
I tell guys what they NEED to hear.
I'm a pain in the ass, man.
And I don't really care whether or not you buymy DVD program. In fact, please don't.
One thing that we both agree on...
Being “too nice” isn't the way with women.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dave,
I used the most simple technique to test yourmethods and was absolutely AMAZED at the results.Simply put, I am in a bar and see a beautifulblonde and say to her "I love the dress, but yourhair looks like s@#$". She immediately startsplaying with her hair and runs into the bathroom.She comes out 20 minutes later and and asks me howit looks now, which I say "better". She walks awayand talks to her friends, only to come back to me10 minutes later to sit down and flirt with me.After a while she goes back to talk to her friends,and then comes back to me again and says "you areadorable" and keeps staring at me. She wasabsolutely 100% attracted to me. She kept lookingat me in a crazed sort of way that I NEVERexperienced after all of those years being a"nice guy". A beautiful woman was practicallystalking me and all I ever said was that herhair looked bad. That's all it took. THAT wasincredible!
EK St. Petersburg, FL
>>>MY COMMENTS:
lol...
You know, I'm afraid that this newsletter isgoing to have guys running out all over theworld to insult women.
If you're reading this right now, make sure youare VERY FAMILIAR with the principles of beingCocky & Funny, the voice tone and body languageinvolved, etc. before you attempt to use it.
If you choose to avoid this advice, you're verylikely to get yourself slapped.
...which is probably what you need anyway.
Where do you learn this stuff? Try my eBook andmy Advanced Series.
By the way, great story. It's CRAZY how womenwill start telling you how “sweet” and “cute”and “nice” you are when you tease them.
***QUESTION***
David, I downloaded your book a few weeks ago andlike a dumbass I put off reading it untilyesterday. I read it straight through and triedsome of your methods later that night... I wastalking to a little hottie and she was giving madattitude which I immediately called her out on andthen pulled out the "I know something no one elsewho's known you for 5 min" thing and she ate it uplike it was her last meal. Throughout the nightwith plenty of C/F, she was like my siamese twin.Truly incredible since I had just read your book afew hours before and I have braces! What are someother "profound comments" that I can throw into mygame? I can't wait to get the advanced series, andI've got a new outlook on life. Can't thank youenough.
T
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes, I have a profound comment for you:
SAY NOTHING.
This is one of my favorites... so let me tellyou about it.
Women LOVE to say things just to see what you'lldo or say in response.
Have you ever had a woman mention sex earlyon in a conversation?
Or maybe a woman will ask a shocking questionlike “When was the last time you slept with awoman?” or “How many women have you slept with?”or “I have been with a few women... what do youthink of that?”.
Or maybe a woman will DO something crazy, likepush her boobs together and ask if you thinkshe should get implants.
I'm sure you've been there.
These are all things that women do to TEST youand see what you're all about.
This is yet another topic that deserves anentire newsletter... so I'll give you theshort version.
One of my favorite responses is to just lookback at her with a blank look, and sayNOTHING AT ALL.
No response.
No facial expression.
No nervous ticks.
No excited looks.
NOTHING.
I'll let the tension build for about 5 or10 seconds.
They I'll usually fire back some kind of Cocky& Funny comment like “Does that usually work?”.
Of course, this totally short-circuits whatevershe did, and usually gets a deer-in-the-headlights look with an “I'm so innocent”question of “What do you mean by that?”.
Of course, I usually respond with “You knowEXACTLY what I mean”.
Remember, when you're in one of these situations,the most PROFOUND comment you can make is oftenNO comment.
Great question.
You're going to FREAK when you watch myAdvanced Series...
***Success Story***
I got your e-book and additional materials and Iwant to say thank you. I already did many of thethings you teach (unintentionally) because that'swhat comes naturally, but now I have a much betterunderstanding as to why it works and what I can dobetter, because let's face it, if I was satisfiedwith my success I wouldn't be here. I've alwaysbeen good at approaching women, getting theirnumbers and keeping them interested, but I'vealways messed up 'closing escrow'. Your 'pull themto you', 'Push them away' technique is working,the hardest part is being patient and not rushingin.
I took a girl out last weekend to the park for apicnic (inexpensive experience) with the keyingredient (sexy food as you advised): cherries(1lb). I was looking for the cherries to do theirmagic and by the time we got to dessert, we werefeeding each other increasing the level of sensualactivity leaped exponentially. Then using your'pull-push' technique, I would stop and say "Nowyou cannot rub me there in a public park" andwould move her hand away from my crotch. Then Iwould start again and stop. I made some commentssuggesting that I would be willing to 'allow' herto touch me more in private, but she didn't takethe bait and wanted to continue a 'public display'.As you recommend, I cut the picnic short and saidI had to do some work - I run my own business, soit was plausible even on a weekend. She emailedthe next day and wants to see me again.
The trouble is how to get her from A to B (publicplace to bedroom) without giving the game away? Iknow you suggest making an excuse - before I readyour materials, I have used grocery shopping i.e.,taking the bags back to my place- but anyone canfigure what the hidden motive is. If a girl asksyou to her place for 'coffee', you never end upboiling a kettle. So should I be more direct orshould I wait for her to suggest it?
Thanks in advance.
-H (London)
>>>MY COMMENTS:
This is an interesting question.
I don't really think that you need to make any“excuses”.
I think that your mistake was that you got toofrisky with her in public, then actually toldher that you'd be willing to “allow” her to domore with you in private.
Both might have been bad, in your case.
If I were you, I would have:
1) Not let things get so heavy in the park.
2) Not mentioned being with her in private.
3) Ended the picnic, then casually led her toyour car, and took her to your place.
Remember, if you give a woman something toresist, she usually will.
So don't.
In fact, it's often better to put things outthere as a playful CHALLENGE instead.
If a woman wants to see my house, I often say“I'm not sure about this... I don't know if Itrust you. I'll tell you what. You can onlycome in for a minute, and no funny business”.
If I were you, I'd:
1) Wait a day to email her back.
2) Wait at least a couple of days to see her
3) Keep yourself busy, and date other women.
4) Invite her over, and cook dinner.
You take things from there...
And pay careful attention to the comments Imade above. You're almost there...
***QUESTION***
Hey David,
I just bought a copy of your ebook and I think itsabsolutely fantastic and to put it plainly'right-on'. (This is coming from a guy who used tothink that any kind of book on dating would be aload of crap). Your ideas have changed my beliefs.Now I think I'm getting the C&F down pretty well...but I recently went out on a date with a 7.5 andwe had a blast but there were one or two momentsduring the date when both of us ran out of thingsto say and so all I could think of was C&F so Iended up blurting out ... "So why don't you tellme an exciting story? If it's really good then Imight consider taking you out again and you caneven pay if you want!" This cracked her up and Ieven ended up setting another date with her but Iwas just wondering what I should do for futureoccasions if such a situation ever arises!
Thanks! Mo
>>>MY COMMENTS:
The thing that determines whether or not a silenceis “uncomfortable” is what happens RIGHT AFTERIT.
In other words, most men get all kinds of nervousif there is a silence... and by the time theythink of something to say, they SOUND nervous.
If you just realize that silences are normal, andallow them to happen, you'll solve about 80% ofthe problems that go along with them.
Don't let silences bother you.
When they happen (and they always do), just pickthe conversation back up later.
Again, most men let silences freak them out.
When you do this, then start acting nervous, itINSTANTLY lets a woman know that you're tryingto impress her, and that you care too much aboutwhat she thinks of you...
Which, of course, makes your concern backfire onyou.
Stay cool.
Don't let a silence bother you.
***SUCCESS STORY***
David,
I have been receiving your e-mails for almost amonth now and I am learning more about women thanI ever thought possible. Anyways, I used to alwayshave problems understanding when and what womenwanted from me. I've always seemed to make thewrong move at the wrong time, and I've paid dearlyfor it in many instances. BUT I now know the errorof my ways. Last week a very hot girl (thanks tosome of your suggestions) and I were sitting at myplace watching her favorite movie, the PrincessBride, (all in all not a bad movie) when the powersuddenly went out. I had nothing to do with it, Iswear (wink, wink :) ). So after the initial shockwore off for her we began talking and I used yourhow-to-know-when-a-woman-wants-to-be-kissedconcept. And you know what? It worked! Not that Iwas very surprised but I was a little. Thank youso much for your thoughts and I'll soon beordering your advanced series.
JS, Vegas
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yea, “The Kiss Test” is a great one.
One of my favorites.
I love ideas that rejection-proof the process.
***COMMENT FROM A WOMAN***
Dear David,
A friend of mine (male) just forwarded yournewsletters to me to take a look at. He wanted mycandid (female) opinion on what you were saying.After reading them over and checking out your site(yea, you hooked me, I signed up for thenewsletter too) I love this stuff you're tellingthese guys, keep it up!
Cocky & funny is totally the way to go. Moreoften than not, I see a guy in a club or coffeeshop, laundry mat (where ever) and they're sexxy,hot, attractive or whatever and THEN they speak...Its all over. No wit, no intelligence, no spark...nothing. Sure they're great to look at, but thats'bout it. And the guys that are witty andintelligent are too scared to approach me. Now, Ijust want to print out everything on your site andhand it out like candy on Halloween to random guys.
A little about me...I'm 30, short? 5'2" bout120ish lbs asian/irish combo and I consider myselfto be somewhere in the range of a 7-8, though mostguys I know throw me somewhere up over 10. I havean awesome personality, am attractive, intelligentand I know exactly what I want, when I want it andam not afraid to say it.
And this thing you say about females beingcompetitive, lol! Its soooo true. My girlfriends hate me but come to me with every questionimaginable about how to deal with men, they callme the heart breaker and of course they all tellme I should write a book.
I have a large number of male friends and fromthem I've learned this one valuable thing...Menare incredibly easy to read, its a shame. Theytruely get trapped in this cycle of behaviorpatterns and have no way out, which makes themsemi-unattractive to the opposite sex. I'm not ina successful relationship because it ALWAYS endswith this confident and intelligent guy turninginto a blob of lime jello in my presence.
It starts like this, I meet guy, date guy (orwhatever use your imagination) he falls head overheels WAY too fast then transforms from thisattractive appealing person to...yea jello. Mostof the girls I know want to know the secret toturning a guy into mush and having them rightwhere they want them, but fail to understand thatits BORING! Women are somewhat like men and wantto be stimulated, though it does take differentthings to stimulate women than men, but its abasic common sense concept.
You keep telling these guys that chicks may thinkthey want the same old blah blah blah, but theyreally don't, they want the...omfg RaR~!! Givethem that and they're totally yours...
Unless of course its me, then they'll always needto change up to keep me interested, cuz i'm one ina million (lol) I'd send you my picture and opena correspondence with you because you seem hellainteresting and get "it", but then you'd fallmadly in love with me and abandon your technique...then i'd have to break your heart ;)
D in MA
>>>MY COMMENTS:
All men should be forced to read this email everyday for 30 days in a row before they're allowedto have their 18th birthday party.
AMEN sister!
By the way, if there's one thing you can betmoney on, it's that I'm not falling in love withyou because you send me a picture.
But it was a nice thought.
For you, I mean.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Seriously, dude, where were you 16 years ago whenI could have really used this stuff?
Not that I'm not having fun using it right now.Your advice is pure gold. If there's a guy outthere on the fence right now about trying out theC+F routine, hop off that fence and start usingit.
I recently divorced and started a new job, andthere's a hottie there that I'm not interested indating but has been a great test subject. I busther balls all the time, and she eats it up! I'vebeen getting free lunches out of the deal and getto be seen with a beautiful woman, so there's nodownside.
Here's where your stuff really helped out, though.One day she comes to my cubicle and I'm doing theC+F thang -- when she suddenly gets pouty and callsme mean. She says, with a frowny face, "I don'tlike the way you keep making fun of me." Well, thisis certainly new behavior on her part, because upuntil now she's been loving it. Then the light bulbgoes off in my head -- this is a test! "If youdon't like it," I respond very matter-of-factly,"then don't smile so much when I do it." Her frownmelted into a smile and she invited me out toanother free lunch!
David, I swear, a few years back I would havefailed this test. I would have apologized formaking fun of her, immediately complimented her insome way and made a total wimp out of myself. Butnot now -- thanks to you!
P.S. -- You should have heard the guys in mydepartment after this little exchange. Theycouldn't believe how smooth and calm I was. Iimmediately sent them all a copy of yournewsletter.
-- P in Minneapolis
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Your response is CLASSIC Cocky & Funny.
“...then don't smile so much when I do it...”
LOVE IT... love it.
This is the way to communicate with women.
This is it.
Thanks... great story.
***QUESTION***
David...
Kudos on the Advanced Series CD set and theeBook...it's absolutely phenomenal material! I'mreally feeling my confidence skyrocket with everylisten and application of this stuff. WOW!!!!
The other day, I was out at Borders Bookstore andsaw this very attractive girl reading a book, andshe looked deep in thought. Knowing that girls wholook like her are often treated like they are onlyall beauty and no brains, I walk up to her and ask,"Is this seat taken?" and sit down with her andsay, "I saw you sitting here and you looked likeyou were very deep in thought and wanted to know...<>...what is on your mind?" David, she MELTED!!! Ihardly had to talk for the rest of 10-15 minutes Iwas with her, because she was so excited thatsomeone saw her for her brains and not her boobs(reallllly nice ones, at that...lol). I told her Ihad to go and gave her MY NUMBER...and my phone hasbeen ringing off the hook!!!! This is a reallyimportant concept you've harped on before: noticingthe typically unnoticed aspects of a woman - ifshe's brainy and only modestly pretty, emphasizeher beauty and if a woman is very attractive, makesure to stroke her intellect because these girlsnever have attention paid to their mind, only totheir body. Woman LOVE IT that you notice theseunnoticed things about them...it makes them feellike there is some sort of "cosmic connection"between you and Her.
Now to the questions......In your CD Series, youtalk about setting the "ground rules" with women inthe very beginning of the relationship. One wasabout telling a woman that your house is a placewith a calm, positive vibe and that no drama istolerated and the other was telling a woman thatyou have zero intentions of starting a relationshipanytime soon. Now, these are awesome ideas that Iwant to come across but do I tell the girlsdirectly or do I 'convey' them somehow? If so, howdo I convey these ideas??
Thanks A Lot!!! D, Indiana
>>>MY COMMENTS:
In short, BOTH.
When it comes to my house, and telling a womanthe “rules” of being in my house, I like to tellher DIRECTLY.
I lay it all out.
Why?
Why not imply it somehow?
Because in this case, telling her IS implyingsomething. But it's something ELSE.
When I lay down the rules for being in my house,I'm communicating something FAR more importantto her.
I'm communicating that I'm in CONTROL of thesituation... and that this is MY territory.
Get it?
Remember in the Advanced Series when I explainthat women are ALWAYS interpreting the thingsyou say? And that you have to learn how to STOP saying things directly, and start sayingeverything by IMPLYING?
Well, this is a case of implying by sayingsomething ELSE directly.
I know, deep, man.
Great question...
And by the way, if you're reading this rightnow, and you're ready to take your successwith women to an entirely different level,then I have a few things to tell you...
First, I want to ask you something.
What is it that's holding you back?
What's stopping you from having success withwomen?
Think about it for a minute.
Now I have something REALLY interesting toshare with you...
YOU'RE WRONG.
See, I know that most guys have a “secretreason” why they fail with women.
Maybe it's that they're too short.
Or maybe it's because they're too old.
Or maybe it's because they're bald.
Whatever it is, it's THE big reason.
Unfortunately, most guys walk around withtheir “secret reason”, and use it to explainto themselves why NOTHING can EVER work forthem.
As they read these newsletters, in their mindsthey're constantly saying “That's a great story,but that would never work for ME because ofmy secret reason...”.
Are you with me here?
Well guess what...
WE ALL HAVE A SECRET REASON.
But the fact is that you're WRONG.
Your secret reason IS ABSOLUTELY NOT thereason why you don't have the kind of successwith women that you'd like to have.
The REAL reason why you don't have the levelof success you want is because you're notDOING ANYTHING about it.
I have spent a lot of time getting to know alot of guys who are successful with women.
And guess what?
MOST of them are NOT what you would expect.
Sure, I know a few guys that are tall, rich,and handsome.
But the MAJORITY of guys that I know who aresuccessful with women are AVERAGE OR BELOWin MOST areas of their lives.
I know at least 4 or 5 SHORT guys who dateso many hot women it would make your headspin.
Most of the guys I know who are really goodwith women make average incomes.
...and on and on.
I now believe 100% that you can overcome anylittle “disadvantage” that you have, and go onto become VERY successful with women.
One more thing...
I've spent a LOT of time putting my eBook andother products together.
Think about this for a moment...
What if I asked you to spend a few YEARS ofyour life, thousands of dollars of your ownmoney, and all kind of hard work and effortto learn something?
What if I told you that at the end of thattime, I wanted to have you create a programthat taught me everything you learned, but Iwas only going to pay you a couple of hundredbucks to do it?
What would you say?
You'd probably laugh at me.
Well, that's what I'VE done myself.
I've spent YEARS figuring out this area ofmy life for MYSELF. I took the time to tryall kinds of crazy ideas, and test everythingI learned.
Most of it didn't work.
Most of it sucked.
I wasted more time trying stupid things thananyone I know.
But the good news is that I figured it out.
I took myself from not being able to even walkover and talk to a woman to being able to datethe most beautiful and intelligent women alive.
And now I've created the programs that I WISHI had when I started.
I'm serious about this.
I always ask myself “What do I wish I had whenI started”... and I go from there.
Finally, I've been doing something lately thatis UNHEARD OF...
In the past, I got a lot of emails that saidthings like “If your stuff is so great, whydon't you send me a free copy, and if it worksfor me, I'll pay you...”.
I just laughed and said “Yea, right, whatever”.
But the more I thought about it, the more Irealized that this was the way I PERSONALLYwould like things to be when I buy things.
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I'll talk to you again soon.
Your Friend,
David D.
David DeAngelo is the author of “Double Your Dating - What Every Man Should Know About How To Be Successful With Women”, and has taught thousands of men how to be more successful with women and dating.
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